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Friday Aug 8, 2008

The Japanese attack on Pearl Harbor launched the greatest naval war of all time. The attack was brilliantly timed and executed, but fatally flawed. Many say that failing to catch the U.S. carriers in port was the biggest error. Possibly so. In any case, the carriers weren’t there to be attacked.

The U.S. Pacific ww2 submarine force was there however, and it was totally ignored. Hundreds of Japanese torpedo-plane pilots flew right over—and sometimes next to—the submarine base and it’s munitions dump on neighboring Kuaha. In doing so, they missed a golden opportunity to destroy the one arm of the U.S. Navy capable of attacking the weakest link in the Empire’s chain: shipping.

Japan was an overpopulated island nation totally dependent on imports for everything from rice to oil. The large surface ships either damaged or destroyed at Pearl Harbor were impressive and powerful, but it would have been many months, or even years, before the ships could operate deep into Japanese controlled areas of the Pacific. However on the afternoon of the attack on Pearl Harbor, December 7, 1941, the order was given: Execute unrestricted air and submarine warfare against Japan. The subs, with their supplies and harbor facilities spared in the attack, were the only forces capable of responding immediately, and respond they did—slowly at first, but with gathering speed.

The year 1942 was a tentative one for the submarine forces. Outdated tactics had to be discarded, unaggressive skippers replaced, exploratory reconnaissance conducted, and new tactics developed. Only 139 ships were sunk by submarines in 1942, but the foundation was laid. With many of the tactical problems behind them, the U.S. submarine forces moved into 1943 with but one major problem: faulty torpedoes.

The year 1943 saw increasing numbers of successful patrols, most notably those of Commander Dudley “Mush” Morton and the USS Wahoo, whose outstanding patrols are described in detail in this book. His aggressive attacks gave the entire corps a lift just when they needed it.

Torpedo problems remained, highlighted by the experience of the USS Tinosa. On one occasion, the Tinosa intercepted and attacked a large tanker. Four torpedoes were fired, and although several appeared to hit the ship, only minor damage resulted. The tanker was stopped but not ready to sink. The submarine’s captain, Commander Daspit, had a sitting duck and so moved in for the kill, conning the boat to a perfect firing position 875 yards away.

He fired nine torpedoes, one after another. All hit. All were duds. In all 15 shots were fired at the tanker; 13 hit their target, but after the attack, the ship was in no danger of sinking. The captain held onto his last torpedo and headed for home. A similar incident happened to the Wahoo.

Testing showed that the better the setup, the more likely it was that the torpedo would e a dud! The problem was the firing pin: If the torpedo struck the target at a perfect 90-degree angle, the firing pin would almost always shear off and the torpedo would fail to explode. Even with this serious torpedo problem, the 1943 total went up to 307 ships sunk.

The year 1944 would see the virtual destruction of the Japanese merchant fleet. By the end of the first half of 1944, the war in the Pacific was no longer in doubt. Three of the five Japanese aircraft carriers remaining at the beginning of the year were lying on the bottom—two of them downed by submarines. The “back” of the fleet was finally broken.

With the Japanese fleet severely depleted, the submarines turned their attention to the tankers carrying fuel oil for the fleet and aircraft. One tanker after another went to the bottom. Fuel became so critical that training missions for new pilots were severely cut, and as a result, the “green” Japanese pilots were easy pickings for the now-veteran U.S. naval aviators.

The USS Tang, under the command of Dick O’Kane, had her legendary run in 1944 (her entire career is set down in Chapters 38-41, so you can trace her path and try to equal her record). With properly running torpedoes and many new boats in service, submarines sank 548 ships in 1944, effectively isolating Japan from the resources they needed to continue the war.

The year 1945 was a year of mopping up; still, one more major ww2 submarine offensive was needed to convince the Japanese leaders to give up the fight. Ships were being sunk faster than they could be replaced, and the pickings were getting slim. United States submarines hadn’t ventured back in to the Sea of Japan since the Wahoo was lost there in 1943, but with new mine-detecting devices it was now time to reenter “Hirohito’s Lake” and avenge the loss of the Wahoo.

Admiral Lockwood, COMSUBPAC, put together and ordered “Operation Barney.” Nine fleet subs—the Sea Dog, Crevalle, Spadefish, Tunny, Skate, Bonefish, Flyingfish, Bowfin, and Tinosa—ventured into the Sea of Japan to show the Emperor that the U.S. had the capability of cutting him off from the mainland completely. The operation was a resounding success with 28 merchant ships and assorted others sunk, but unfortunately, the Bonefish didn’t return. Going down with all hands, she was the last Pacific sub lost in the war.

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Did the German or Japanese submarines ever operate very close to USA during WW2?

Wednesday Sep 17, 2008


Yes, German submarines did and they were responsible for a number of ship sinkings off the eastern coast, in places like Georgia and the Carolina's.

In addition, Japanese submarines were rare but did make appearances off the coast of California, sinking a few ships and also shelling Santa Barbara and Santa Monica.


Where any submarines belonging to the British Armed Forces kept in the sea around Chios island during WW2?

Monday Sep 15, 2008


British subs where in the Med all through WW2.


How many total submarines did Germany build during WW2?

Saturday Sep 13, 2008


1008 U boats were built and made at least one cruise during the Second Battle of the North Atlantic, 1939-45; 775 were sunk; 600 by the Royal Navy and the rest by the US………..and one by the Free Polish Navy!


Did America maintain a powerful fleet of submarines compared to Germany during WW2?

Thursday Sep 11, 2008


The American Submarine fleet, dubbed the Silent Service, was almost single-handedly responsible for the destruction of the japanese merchant fleet, sinking 1152 ships and cutting off the strategically vital oil supplies from Indonesia. I don't think that US boats were technically superior to the German U-boats. There were serious problems early in the war with the magnetic fuses and depth settings on the US torpedoes. The torpedoes would run too deep. The high command demanded a setting of twenty feet, and the would run at sixty feet. The only submarine captains who got kills int he early part of the war were the ones who disobeyed orders and set thier torpedoes to run on the surface.


USS Pampanito (SS-383) US Submarine Rescuing Australian POWs

Sunday Aug 31, 2008

This video is from the US Submarine “USS Pampanito” (SS-383) taken Sept 15, 1944, while rescuing British and Australian Soldiers, who are survivors of two Japanese Transport Ships the Rakuyo Maru, and the Kachidoki Maru, which were NOT MARKED as they should have been with any Red Cross Flag, and had been sunk 3 days earlier by American Submarines while the Japanese were hauling the POW’s from Malaysia to the Japanese Mainland. The Americans were totally unaware of the precious cargo they had just sunk.

These men had all been Japanese Prisoners of war for 3 years on the Maylay Peninsula, used in forced labor to construct the Burma Railway. 73 Men were plucked from the water that day by Pampanito, and taken to Saipan, where they were transferred to the US Army Hospital at Tampag Harbor on the 20th of Sept.

The Submarines USS Sealion II, USS Barb and USS Queenfish combined, rescued another 85 men from these same ships, the same day.

You can see the men are all in very poor health, coated in oil, and are all malnourished suffering from numerous illnesses, scurvy, Malaria, BeriBeri, Dysentary, Immersion foot, and almost starved to death.

They all had tales of being beaten, starved and mis-treated by the Japanese. They had been abandoned on the ship after it was torpedoed. The Japanese took all of the life boats, so the men had a short time to tear off deck hatches and stuff to float on.

After 5 days on board the Submarine, most of the survivors were able to get around pretty well, thanks to the care and assistance of the crew of the USS Pampanito. At the end you can see them eating Ice Cream, being made right there on top of the boat, and I think it would be hard to wipe the smiles from their faces.

Out of a total of 2,200 men on the two un-marked tansports that were sunk, 1,400 Perished.
Most of the survivors were unfortunately picked up by the Japanese and remained prisoners/slaves on the Mainland untill being rescued by the American Occupation Forces at Karasaki POW camp, in Sept 1945.

For a first hand narrative from a Pampanito Crewmember go here:
http://www.history.navy.mil/library/online/oral_history_davis.htm

To Read a 1st hand narrative of a Survivor who was picked up by the Japanese go here:
http://www.anzacday.org.au/history/ww2/anecdotes/survivors.html

For another account of the Sinking Go Here:
http://www.subvetpaul.com/SAGA_10_85.htm

Another good Narrative of the incident that includes names and adresses of Survivors:
http://www.submarinesailor.com/history/pow/AussieBritRescue/

Pampanitos WW2 War Record, 6 battle Stars:
http://www.history.navy.mil/danfs/p1/pampanito.htm

This Mighty US Warship is now a US Maritime Museum in San Francisco teaching future Bubbleheads the perils, dangers, excitement and satisfaction of being a US Sub Sailor.
http://uss-pampanito.visit-san-francisco.com/

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WW2 Submarine Art

Saturday Aug 30, 2008

This is a series of very realistic images of US WW2 Submarines at war.

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What was the first blow struck against the IJN by an American WW2 submarine?

Saturday Aug 30, 2008

And - for “Super Star” rating in my estimation - what individual US sailor was credited with striking that blow? By the way “IJN” = Imperial Japanese Navy. Max - You are on the right track, but according to my info SS-170 Cachalot fired at Japanese aircraft with no effect. By “first blow” I really mean “a kill”. Maybe a larger, more modern sub than Cachalot … and one with an outstanding WW2 record? Wow! Well done, both of you! BTW, SS-199 Tautog went on to sink more Japanese ships than any other USN sub. This is tough, because it seems to me that gay-1890’s wouldn’t have got there without max pointing the way. I wish I could give both of you a BA for it. Would you like me to let this go to a vote? Edit answers with your preference inside 48 hours if you would. OK, Max. You’re a gentleman as well as being a scholar. Reckon I owe you one for resolving my dilemma.
27 January 1942 The [IJN submarine] I-73 is enroute back to Yokosuka. Her propeller sounds are picked up by sonar off the USS GUDGEON’s (SS-211) port bow. Lt Cmdr Grenfell, running submerged, spots the submarine and begins his attack. The I-73, with many of her crewmen on deck, is running a straight course and not zigzagging. Grenfell fires three Mark 14 steam torpedoes from 1,800 yards and scores two hits***. The I-73 sinks with all hands at 28-24N, 178-35E. She is the first warship ever sunk by an American submarine. So, I’ll say the USS Gudgeon, and Lt Cmdr Elton W. “Joe” Grenfell ————- Here’s another stab at this: Pearl Harbor, 12/7/41 The USS TAUTOG, it’s .50 caliber machine gun, manned by Torpedoman’s Mate Pasqual “Pat” Mignon, opened fire on a flight of torpedo bombers and shot one down unassisted. The first confirmed enemy causality by a submarine was an airplane.


Of Ghosts and WW2 Submarines

Friday Aug 29, 2008

Was it a submarine or a whale? If it was a submarine, was it Japanese or Russian?

The WW2 Submarine Mystery endures.
An article in The Vancouver Sun, published Monday, August 18, 2008, recounts a rare ww2 submarine sighting and attack near Canadian waters in 1942. An RCAF bomber crew patrolling the area sighted what appeared to be a submarine about 130 miles northwest of British Columbia’s Queen Charlotte Islands.

They claim certain damage by single 500 pound bomb, followed up by a thorough depth charging by surface patrol boats. Debris and fuel were spotted on the surface and the target was listed as destroyed. The mystery is… whose sub was it?

It was originally thought to be the Japanese submarine RO-32, but this boat turned up intact after the war. The U.S. lost no boats in the area, so the next thought is that it was Russian. But what would the Russians be doing there unannounced? Were they spying on us already in 1942?

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USS Parche - Battles into Retirement

Wednesday Aug 27, 2008

After the end of WW2 the attacks on the Parche continued! The WW2 submarine was assigned to the famous Bikini Island Operation Crossroads as a target ship for a series of atomic bomb tests. Tough as always, the Parche survived both an atomic airburst blast and the underwater burst, coming through two atomic blasts relatively undamaged!

After decontamination, she was decommissioned on December 10, 1946 and moved to the moth ball fleet Alameda, California in March 1947.

Parche was removed from the Navy List on November 8, 1969 and sold for scrap. Her original conning tower barrel, bridge structure, shears, and upper gun from the war are on display at the Naval Submarine Base, Pearl Harbor.

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